We are delighted to welcome the charismatic Simon Lamb to the YLG blog to discuss his debut collection A Passing on of Shells with Yoto Carnegies judge Tanja Jennings. With each miniature story composed in 50 words, it has sparked excitement in the world of children’s poetry.
Poet, performer and storyteller Simon grew up in Scotland where drama was his first love followed by mathematics. He has been a Primary School teacher, reviewed books, performed poetry at festivals, toured with a one man show and now facilitates workshops in schools. In 2022 Simon became Scriever at the Robert Burns Museum in Ayrshire giving him the opportunity to create new projects promoting the literature of Scotland and celebrating new voices.
Here Simon talks about what poetry means to him. He explains how an idea became a reality when Scallywag Press commissioned him.
Your debut poetry collection was a joy to read. It’s contemplative, humorous, lyrical and experimental with the concept of story and quest running throughout it. What inspired you to craft poems in 50 words?
The concept of the fifty 50 worders started in 2014. It’s the Goldilocks number. It’s not a six-word story or a hundred-word story. It’s that middle ground. This appealed to the mathematician in me. I wrote them over a year, put them away and then revisited the drawer in the Pandemic.
You teamed up with Scallywag Press to launch your collection. How did this come about?
It happened because I had been reviewing children’s books for a newspaper in the Highlands which featured titles from Scallywag Press. They contacted me out of the blue asking if I had any writing they could look at. It was just meant to be.
Can you explain the idea behind your title?
For me launching something like fifty 50-word poems is like 50 little books rather than just one book. I was inspired by a nature programme about the vacancy chain of the Hermit crab and the passing on of shells. Just such an intriguing concept to me. Writers love finding those things that we can then use to talk about other stuff. I think that’s really obvious in Chris’s illustration where he chooses not to illustrate crabs but to depict humans within shells.
What was it like collaborating with Chris Riddell?
I’m still pinching myself it’s happened. He’s a superstar. I felt incredibly lucky. For me one of my favourite parts of the entire thing was sitting down with his roughs for the very first time and seeing these 50 first illustrations.
Can you pick a favourite illustration?
I have a soft spot for Snow Globes. Chris’s illustration for that one is just pitch perfect to those words. He’s captured the moment of capturing the moment.
What about the creative process behind the layout of the book?
Scallywag hired me to typeset the book. It’s thrilling that all of the spreads were typeset before Chris illustrated. I guessed where all of the words might appear and he illustrated around it. That’s talent.
How important is structure and the performance element of poetry to you?
I think there’s a link between performance and the typed word. In Snow Globes there are long lines and big thoughts. In Tales from a Garden there are short lines and little images of what we see around us. Spaces between words illustrate movement in The Three-Legged Race. We should be encouraging fun in children’s poetry. They shouldn’t just see poetry as rhyming couplets.
Is there a poem in your collection that has inspired young audiences to create?
I read Two Slugs Just Chilling in the Compost Bin at an event. One of the boys was inspired to write a sequel about the disappearing slug. Just wonderful.
You’ve described Poetry as a snow globe. Can you elaborate on that?
I think Snow Globes is the closest I’ve ever come to defining poetry. I wrote it when I realised that I had more to say about poetry itself.
So, Poetry for you is like a miniature world captured in 50 words?
The use of the word capturing extends the poem out beyond the 50 worder. We’re trying to capture something on that blank of piece of paper. Almost flourishing something into existence that’s then captured. We’ll grow older but the poem will forever be there. We might read it differently but the poem will always be as it was.
You’ve used your collection to reflect how poetry is taught in schools. What do you think is the most effective way to connect students with poetry?
I think about this often. It’s stereotypical but true. In Primary we encounter poetry as comic verse. In Secondary it’s heavy, weighty, grey and sad. It’s almost like that’s all it’s allowed to be. That’s stifling. It does instil the idea that there’s rhythm in the rhyme and shows that comic verses stick but we’re not allowed to bleed over. I worry that when we teach poetry, we only teach structure and form without teaching what poetry is, about it being the art of playing with words and the freedom of using words.
The concept of story and quest is significant in your collection. What were your thoughts when writing Apocalyptic Scene?
I had this vision in my head of a character who is triumphant at this moment. It poured out in this purple prose. I’ve always been struck by Geraldine McCaughrean’s Carnegie Medal speech,
“We must never be afraid of using words that make the kid go and explore further” so I included meaty words.
Are there any poets you find inspirational?
I like Simon Armitage and Zaro Weil. Scottish poet Don Paterson has done some cool stuff with narratives and voices.
What advice would you give to students studying Performing Arts?
I’d say remember that you are part of a community. Explore every aspect and make the most of every opportunity.
Congratulations on your Scriever post. Can you tell us more about what it will involve?
It’s important to make sure that we are celebrating and commemorating Burns but also exploring other Scottish writers beyond that. Poetry should be enjoyed all the year round. The more voices we hear the better literature is. The Scriever Introduces showcases four current Scottish Writers inspired by place and history- Justin Davies, Barbara Henderson, Lindsay Littleson and Theresa Breslin.
Have you any future projects planned?
This book has created ripples. It looks different and feels different. I’m still thinking about what I want to say next.
A big thank you to Simon Lamb for the interview, and to Tanja Jennings and Scallywag Press for making this happen.
We are delighted to welcome Patience Agbabi to the blog for an exciting
interview and discussion around Poetry
By Heart.Patience was born in
London in 1965 to Nigerian parents. She has been writing poetry for over twenty
years, and is now writing for children too. The
Infinite, the first in the Leap Cycle series, won a Wales
Book of the Year Award and the series has an enthusiastic following amongst
young readers. The third instalment, The Circle Breakers, is out now. Patience
is also a judge on Poetry By Heart, the national poetry speaking
competition for schools and colleges in England and in this interview explains
why she recommends we all learn poetry by heart.
Could you describe your
own first encounters with poetry – at home and at school? When did you first
feel that poetry offered something special? Do you remember learning poems by
heart?
My
foster mum read to me every night as a young child so my earliest memory would
be of hearing nursery rhymes and loving the sounds as well as the sense of
them. Poetry at school came much later. It would have been early secondary and
I remember loving the soundscapes again, as well as the shape it made on the
page. I distinctly remember the teacher explaining iambic pentameter and understanding
it instantly. I was lucky because quite a few of the pupils found it difficult
– it seems to be the hardest technical device to grasp – and it actually opened
up creative doors in my head. When we had to learn ‘The quality of mercy is not
strained’ speech in Shakespeare’s The Merchant of Venice, I found it
relatively easy because I was in tune with the iambic pentameter. I do think
it’s important when learning a poem by heart that you get a choice. I was quite
happy learning Shakespeare but I wasn’t your average kid.
You have always taken part
in Spoken Word and live poetry performance – why is that so important to you and
what do you see in audience responses?
I’m
lucky to have had the gift of a very strong memory for learning poetry, even
stronger when I’ve written it myself. I tend to write rhyming poetry which
helps enormously with the mnemonics. My creative process involves revisiting
lines over and over in order to generate subsequent lines. I hear them out loud
in my head. That means by the time I get to the end of a poem, I know it. I
could reproduce it on paper. Learning to deliver it fluently out loud takes a
bit of rehearsal, much more as I get older! The spoken word and live poetry
scene was very exciting for me. I feel privileged to have been living in London
at the end of the last millennium as the scene was so vibrant, there was lots
going on every week. I was initially inspired by hearing other poets perform.
In the early days it was a mixture of African and Caribbean poets like Ahmed
Sheikh, Merle Collins, Benjamin Zephaniah and Jean Binta Breeze. Then I also
fell in love with the punk poetry of John Cooper Clarke, Joolz and Attila the
Stockbroker. Then rap poets came on the scene. I could go on. I was inspired by
them all and once I’d got over the crippling nerves, I loved the act of live
performance, bouncing off the energy of the audience. In fact, I was less
nervous performing off by heart because even though my voice was steady, my
hand used to shake like crazy holding a piece of paper and I would find that
distracting and worry the audience would be distracted too. Audiences always
respond differently when someone is performing by heart. It seems more real;
not having the pages there breaks down the barrier between poet and audience.
When did you first get
involved with Poetry By Heart and why did you want to support the competition?
I
was asked to judge the very first competition which was in 2013. I had to look
up the date and I can’t believe it’s been around for a decade now. I instantly
said yes because I think there’s something transformative about performing a
poem out loud to a live audience. I liked that it asked young people to choose
one poem pre-1900 and one post-1900. I’d always enjoyed poetry from previous
eras but at the same time, loved contemporary poems. So I thought it would be a
very good thing indeed to be involved in. I’ve judged quite a few written
poetry competitions and I always find it excruciating to only be able to choose
a few winners and runners up. There are always poems that don’t quite make it
that are really good. But with Poetry By Heart, I know that every young person
standing up on the stage is a winner. They will have gone through the process
and had the chance to at least perform in front of their peers at school and if
they were lucky and advanced further, a wider audience at the finals.
What do you most enjoy
about being a judge for Poetry By Heart – could you describe the kind of
performances you see and what the young people gain from the experience of
performing at The Globe?
It is great to see young people take a
poem by someone they’ve never met and make it their own. The best performances make
the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Since Covid, we’ve done the first
stage of the judging from videos and that has worked surprisingly well. There
is an intensity to the recordings, often done on mobile phones, that make you
feel that person is performing directly for you. That said, it’s even better
when I see the same poem on the big stage at the Globe. Then, the young people
are performing in front of family and teachers and poet judges and the Poetry
By Heart team; there is that communal buzz you can only get from live
performance. The Globe is particularly good as a venue because it is both
formal enough – designed for Shakespeare – but it’s also informal because it
has that Groundling space at the front. That makes it very accessible. Mind
you, it has been pretty hot the past couple of years so that front space has
been a bit empty, people seeking out the shade, but I look forward to seeing a
crowd a bit close to the stage this year!
Would you recommend that
everyone learns poetry by heart and why?
Definitely. Because it’s fun and gives
you confidence and instils a deep love of language and literature. And it also
enables a reaching out to community. People generally learn poems so they can
share them. They might savour them on their own tongue and lips but there is
also a pure joy in lighting up someone’s life with a poem. The key thing is, it
must be a poem that’s been chosen, not imposed. When someone chooses a poem,
they choose it because it speaks to them. Even the process of finding such a
poem is like finding a jewel, a linguistic gem that must be celebrated. I also
think there’s something infectious about learning poetry by heart. When you see
other people doing it, as I did, all those years ago in my early 20s, I wanted
to do it too.
Book 3 in The Leap Cycle series of
books for young readers is just out – what do you enjoy most about writing for
young people in particular? Does your background as a poet have an impact on
your writing?
There’s a point early on
in Book 1, The Infinite, when my heroine states, ‘I LOVE words, the
shape and the sound of them and how they feel on my tongue.’ Part of the
impetus for writing for young people was wanting to celebrate the voice of my
heroine, Elle. All the books are written in her voice, a first-person
narrative. I created a main protagonist who loves poetry, on the page and out
loud. In the sequel, The Time-Thief, Elle has won a poetry
competition and eventually reads her poem out loud at, wait for it, a poetry
salon at Dr Johnson’s house in the year 1752. It’s a time-travel series so I
was able to create that scene. In the latest book, The Circle Breakers,
anonymous notes are written in rhyming couplets and there is a spoken word
Battle of the Beats in one of the earlier chapters. I’m currently working on
the finale, Book 4, which includes scenes in a library called The Four
Quartets. My poetry background totally fed the entire series. I could not have
written it if I didn’t have a deep passion for poetry, both on the page but
also out loud. Young people love hearing books read aloud. I’ve had a lot of
feedback from teachers who have enjoyed reading The Leap Cycle books to
their Year 5 and 6 classes. It feels like things have come full circle; my love
of words came from hearing them being read aloud by my mum. Now I’m writing
books for young people. Hopefully I’m inspiring some writers of the future.
The Circle Breakers
is out now, published by Canongate, 9781838855796, £7.99, pbk and Poetry By
Heart is open to all schools, primary and secondary, and colleges. To find
out more visit the website or contact the
team direct on info@poetrybyheart.org.uk
or on 0117 905 5338.
Thank you to Patience for the interview and to Andrea Reece for the opportunity.
Stephen Hogtun is the author and illustrator of Leaves,
and of The Station Cat which is nominated for the Yoto
Carnegie Medal for Illustration, 2023.Stephen lives on the coast of Norway in an old house overlooking a
fjord.He had grand plans to restore the
farm and live a peaceful life but found that he didn’t enjoy chopping wood and
wasn’t brilliant at renovation either!He now works on exquisite picture books instead.
Stephen’s new book Deep will be published
by Bloomsbury in August 2023 and explores the relationship between a young
whale calf and his mother as the calf gradually sets out into the depths of the
oceans on his own.
‘Go my little one, swim free,’ she whispered.‘I’ll always be waiting here…’
We are delighted to reveal the immersive cover art for Deep!
If you are interested in finding out about some of the hottest new books for children and young people publishing in 2023, connecting with 22 publishers, meeting an amazing array of authors ( including S.F. Said, Phil Earle, Carnegie Medal for Writing winner 2022 Katya Balen, Jenny Pearson and more!), signing up for free promotional materials or taking part in competitions and much more, the Children's Reading Partners Roadshow - run by The Reading Agency - is for you. Details about how to sign up for you free place and what to expect in each session are below.
When: Wednesday 9 November from 9.15am - 3.15pm
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Session 1: 9.15 - 10.20am. The publishers presenting in this session are: Gecko Press, Usborne, Chicken House, Hachette Children's Group and Macmillan Children's Books. Register for session 1 here.
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Kenneth Oppel
is the author of numerous award-winning children’s book.His first book, Colin’s Fantastic Video
Adventure was published in 1985.He
has won the prestigious Governor General’s Literary Award for Airborn which
was also a Printz Honour Award.Kenneth’s
latest novel is Ghostlight which is published in the UK by Guppy Books.
Past Chair of the Youth Libraries Group, Alison
Brumwell interviewed Kenneth and discussed his fiction and latest novel Ghostlight.The fascinating session was recorded and is
available to watch below.
Thank you to Guppy Books and to Liz Scott for the opportunity.
We are delighted to welcome Joseph
Namara Hollis to the blog.Joseph has
been named winner of the 2022 Klaus Flugge Prize which is awarded to
the most promising and exciting newcomer to picture book illustration. A
graduate of the Cambridge School of Art at Anglia Ruskin University, he won
with his book Pierre’s New Hair, published by Tate Publishing,
which tells the story of a bear obsessed with looking good but also desperate
to show the world his roller-skating flair. Judge illustrator Emily Gravett
said, ‘Pierre’s New Hair made me laugh out loud. What impressed me was the
way that Joseph was able to conjure up a whole world for his characters to
inhabit. It was our winner because we loved how every aspect of the book fitted
together perfectly to make this a quirky fun book to read.’
Can you tell us about your route into illustration?
I’ve always drawn, including when I wasn’t meant to. A
serial doodler. But it probably took until the end of a degree in Graphic Arts
and Design at Leeds Met to realise I wanted to illustrate, or be an
illustrator. Although I had been drawn towards it since studying arts
foundation, I wasn’t truly aware what ‘illustration’ meant or that it was
something I could do. It took several more years of experimentation to commit
to the practice. Or understand what the practice might involve.
This was a lonely practice. Drawing in my makeshift
studio between shifts as a support-worker, it sometimes felt like I was going
against the grain.Stark contrast to the
atmosphere at Cambridge School of Art, when I began studying an MA in
Children’s Book Illustration. That was a tremendously exciting time, surrounded
by people with the same hopes and dreams, I knew I was in the right place.
The end of the course marked the beginning of the journey to publication. The
course’s final exhibition in London, trips to Bologna Children’s Book Fair (organised
by Pam Smy and her team of volunteers), and illustration competitions (V&A
Illustration Awards & the Macmillan Prize) gave me the opportunity to
connect with publishers for the first time. But it would take several more
years wrestling with my stories before I could find a way into the industry.
During this leg of the journey, I had a partner (now my wife) who shared the
same goals as me, so in a sense we were able to keep the team spirit (from
Cambridge) alive.
On returning to England, we entered a Picture Hooks
speed dating event and it was there, in Edinburgh that we first met (what would
become) our illustration agency – Plum Pudding. I prepared work for the Bologna
Children’s Book Fair for the third year, but this time with guidance from my
agent, Hannah. I was delighted when she struck a deal with Tate Publishing. Hannah
had helped me regain confidence writing, and editors Fay, and Emilia at Tate
Publishing furthered this. It had been difficult developing the story beforehand
(when things didn’t work out it often felt like a failure), but the process
with Tate was most enjoyable. The perfect balance between freedom and support.
Are there any illustrators whose work and style have been particularly
important or influential to you?
More illustrators than you can shake a stick at! I
always mention Richard Scarry, whose work I adored as a child. On reflection
his work has been a big influence. A favourite contemporary would be Bjorn Rune
Lie, although the style is somewhat different there are parallels between the
two. I’m attracted to the inventive characters, and the big worlds they build with
intricate details. Wonderful! And witty. I can admire these for hours. And I
intend to! – I’ve just ordered a Bjorn Rune Lie screen print!
Congratulations on winning the Klaus Flugge with 'Pierre's New Hair'
it's a wonderfully energetic and fun book, can you tell us a little about how
you created it?
It is difficult to keep track. I was working on it over
the span of several years before working with Tate Publishing (and since having
a baby my memory has eroded at an alarming rate).
The key ingredients, or tools would be my little red notebook.
This is for the daily writing ritual. Anything goes! Write anything. And it is
where the seeds of the idea were planted.
Then I threw myself directly into a tiny dummy book.
The small size gave it a ‘throw-away’ nature, which helped relieve the potentially
stifling pressure to make anything ‘important’. Playing with the page-turn helped
coax the idea along into a sequence, forcing it to unfold page after page
helped make it more like a ‘story’. That initial ‘idea bit’ happened fast and
was exciting.I must be onto something here!
After that a much more drawn-out process began,
wrestling with countless dummy books, experimenting with artwork, writing
manuscripts, drawing flat plans, filling sketchbooks with drawings that
explored how characters behave or thumbnailing how the sequence could evolve
(in terms of page design and such). The story took many forms while this went
on. It was often enjoyable, but certainly had its challenging phases (of doubt)
too.
What does it mean to you winning the award and knowing that such a
prestigious panel of judges selected 'Pierre's New Hair'?
I have great admiration for the judges, their decision
fills me with gratitude. For me, it is permission. Permission to keep doing
what sometimes feels nonsensical, uncertain, and impractical, whilst at the
same time an absolute necessity.I
feel like I can enter the arena with them fighting my corner. It’ll give me momentum.
Fearlessness. Which is extremely useful when wrestling with the creative forces!
The illustration and text combine to tell a wonderfully funny
story. Traditionally humour is often under-represented in prizes, how
important are funny books?
We all need something to help lift our spirits.
Something safe to retreat to and give us warmth. You won’t get that from the
news, or social media. I love hibernating with books like The Wind in the
Willows, The Day No One Was Angry and Skunk and Badger. Is it
the anthropomorphism that makes these funny? I find it endearing, and those books
certainly make me laugh.
The humour in Pierre’s New Hair is almost unintentional, it is more so a
biproduct of trying to invest deeply in Pierre’s character. I don’t think there
are jokes as such, instead personality injected bit by bit. Drawing after
drawing. Curiosities emerge. Genuine interests seep in. And this all ends up appearing funny,
juxtaposed in an animal world. I’ve never really thought about it, but I’m sure
if I tried more proactively to be funny, it would be a terrible experience.
And involve more tears than laughter.
Do you have plans for what you will be working on next?
Quantum Physics (to clarify, I’m referring to illustrations
for a quantum physics institute, I’m not intending to conduct any scientific
experiments myself, no plans for a career change… yet) and a story about a miserable
hedgehog.
I’m also keen to embark on entirely new ideas. Recently, I’ve been focusing a
great deal of energy on raising my first child and teaching at university. But
with the little one starting nursery and reducing my hours as a lecturer
I’ll have more time to invest in my practice again. Play time!
What would a dream commission be for you?
Every commission is a dream commission! Each project
consumes so much energy, I wouldn’t take on anything that didn’t feel like a
dream commission. There are far more efficient ways to pay the bills.
I’m excited about all elements of illustration and
would like to stretch myself outside the area of children’s book illustration
(although I’m not sure there are enough hours in the day). I wonder what
happens when there are a different set of rules. It might be exciting to
explore some ideas that are less child friendly.
However, perhaps more urgently, I want to keep
exploring my own ideas as a children’s picture book maker and see how far I can
push those boundaries. There’s so much to learn.
The winner of the Klaus Flugge traditionally goes on to judge the
award the year after they have won. Is there anything you'd particularly
like to see among the contenders when you are a judge?
A great picture book will lead you on an
unexpected journey, an element of surprise can be captivating. With
that in mind, I’ll try to avoid going in search of something specific
and let the books lead the way.
When an artist is lost in the moment wonderfully authentic things
happen. It’s thrilling to see someone embrace spontaneity and take risks with
their work. It’s great to see moments of unfiltered passion. Moments might be the
keyword because those moments need to be cradled carefully to communicate
eloquently. Light and shade (or yin and yang) add depth to a story. It’s
wonderful when a picture book attains that ‘perfect’ balance.
A huge thank you to Joseph Namara Hollis for the fantastic interview and to Andrea Reece and the Klaus Flugge Prize for the opportunity!
Gallery images:
One - Showing the cover rough and final cover image for 'Pierre's New Hair'
Two - An early rough
Three - Cover image for 'Not in the Mood'
Four - spreads from 'Pierre's New Hair'
Five - photograph of Klaus Flugge Prize winner Joseph Namara Hollis holding award
Six - Klaus Flugge with 2022 winner Joseph Namara Hollis and judges
It is a huge
pleasure to welcome Lauren Wolk to the
blog.Lauren has been shortlisted for
the Carnegie Medal for her
novels Wolf Hollow, Beyond the Bright Sea and Echo Mountain.Here Lauren discusses her experiences of revisiting
the world and characters of Wolf Hollow for her latest book My Own
Lightning.
“What’s the point?”
That’s how some people reacted when I announced my plans to write a sequel to Wolf
Hollow. They saw no good reason to write a companion to a book that was so
entire unto itself.
But there was
a point. I wanted to discover how the sorrows of Wolf Hollow had changed
my protagonist, Annabelle McBride. I wanted to follow her into a fresh chapter
of her life, to see what she’d learned from her experiences and mistakes.
Although I was
inspired to write My Own Lightning before the pandemic began, the
isolation it caused, along with rising political and social turmoil, amplified
my desire to return to Wolf Hollow: both the place and its people.
Initially, I craved
the safety and simplicity of a small farm and a good and kind family. I missed
all that. I wanted to “go home” for a while.
But as the world
spun out of control all around me, I also felt a renewed kinship with my
beloved Annabelle, who was likewise living in a time of global discord while
grappling with her own personal demons.
I saw a sequel as a
chance to investigate my own changing world as she investigated hers.
I didn’t foresee how
a summer storm would literally shock her into a new awareness of her
surroundings and endow her with a whole raft of heightened senses, including
the ability to empathize with and understand animals and people more deeply
than ever before.
I didn’t foresee
the new characters who entered the story to push the boundaries of Wolf Hollow
outward, expanding Annabelle’s life as she crossed the bridge toward adulthood.
And I didn’t
foresee that Andy, one of the bullies from Wolf Hollow, would become a
main character … or that I would actually like him. Love him. And learn
from him. Just as Annabelle does.
But it is in the
unforeseen that I am happiest.
I write without a
map for many reasons, paramount among them the satisfaction of surprises and
epiphanies. I so love to slip into a character’s skin, experience her story as
she does, find my way one word at a time. In the process, I am both reader and
writer, simultaneously. And there are few things more rewarding that that.
I’m deeply grateful
that I had the chance to write My Own Lightning. Writing a novel – as
with any creative effort – is a leap of faith, with no guarantee of a safe
landing. But without a willingness to explore
the unknown, there is no chance for discovery.
And discovery is
always worth the risk.
I know Annabelle
would agree with me. My Own Lightning is the story of her own journey
into the unknown. And into the insights, revelations, and escalating hope she
finds there.
A huge thank you to
Lauren Wolk for the blog and to Nina Douglas and Penguin Random House for the
opportunity. Photograph of Lauren Wolk is copyright of Robert Nash.
Maisie Chan is the winner of the 2022 Branford Boase award with her
brilliantly funny and thoughtful Danny Chung Does Not Do Maths.We were delighted to talk with Maisie about
her writing and about the award.
What
was your journey to becoming an author?
It’s
been a long journey!
I
guess I had an epiphany when my mum passed away in 2003. I remember telling
someone I wanted to ‘write books!’ but I had no idea where to begin. Three
years later, I began with short stories and flash fiction for adults. I felt
that was a good place to begin as the form is short and I could then move onto
novels. I have to say that I was immensely scared of writing a novel and didn’t
try to write one for years. I felt it was too big a hurdle and that I was not
ready for the task. I also wanted to write a memoir, however, I remember
someone telling me that I was ‘too young’ to write a memoir. At the time, I
didn’t agree, I felt I had a lot to say about my life. Yet, they were right in
terms of my writing ability. I was still very much learning to become a writer.
I had support from Writing West Midlands.
I
had some short stories published and lead creative writing workshops for adults
and children, but I still didn’t write a novel until I became a mentee on the
inaugural Megaphone scheme with
mentor Leila Rasheed back in 2016. I’d had some time away to have children and
had hardly written a thing for five years but felt that this was a great
opportunity for me to get back to what mattered to me, which was writing. I had
wanted to try writing for children after a librarian had told me my ‘voice’
suited children’s and Y.A. I thought I would give it a go. The year I spent as
a Megaphone mentee was brilliant. We had masterclasses from Patrice Lawrence
(just before Orange Boy was published!), Catherine Johnson, Candy Gourlay, Alex
Wheatle and more. We got to speak to editors and agents, and we had a showcase
at the London Book Fair. I wrote a novel for teens called Looking For Lily
Wong and landed my first agent soon after I finished writing it.
During
the time I was editing my teen novel, I felt something just wasn’t working and
put it aside. My agent asked me if I had any middle grade ideas and I pitched
her Danny Chung Does Not Do Maths (which was then called Lychees and
Bingo Balls). She liked the idea, and I wrote it. A year later we went on submission,
and it was picked up by Piccadilly Press in a two-book deal and it was bought
by Amulet in the States a few weeks later. I thought Danny Chung might do
better in the States than in the U.K. because there hadn’t been many (or any) titles
published here for that age group by or for British Chinese people. I wasn’t
sure there was going to be a readership. But I’m glad to say I was wrong!
Can
you introduce us to Danny Chung please?
Danny
is eleven-years-old and is a young artist. He loves drawing comics and getting
his friend Ravi to help with the speech bubbles. It’s an activity that makes
them laugh and one where they can be truly themselves. He also uses drawing to
vent his frustrations and to work out things going on in his life.
Danny
lives above a Chinese takeaway with his parents. They want him to do well at
school, and in their eyes that means being good at maths and other subjects.
His mum’s best friend, Auntie Yee is always comparing him to Amelia Yee who is good
at everything. This makes Danny feel bad.
Danny
also wants to be part of a ‘cool’ group of boys who play physical games
(scooting and shooting their foam pellet guns around the park) rather than the
more imaginative activities that he and Ravi partake in. And to make things
worse, he’s got a math presentation and his gran from China moves in. No-one
has told him this is going to happen, so it’s the worse surprise he can think
of getting. Danny has a lot of personal challenges to overcome in the book.
He's
a regular boy on one hand. But he’s also a British Chinese boy too and so there
are things about his family’s situation and lifestyle which are uniquely
British Chinese. My main concern when writing him was making him relatable.
He’s got wants and desires like any eleven-year-old boy whose parents hope they’ll
to be a certain way, but he has his own path to follow.
The
relationship between Danny and his grandmother, Nai Nai, is beautifully
realised and is often very funny, was it challenging creating the dynamic
between the pair when language is a barrier for them?
Well,
yes and no. My concern for Nai Nai was that I wanted her to inhabit the space
in the book without speaking much and so she is very physical in how she moves,
and her actions speak volumes. I wanted readers to ‘see’ her in their minds clearly
when they read the book and she is by far the most beloved character. I have a
lot of experience in real life of staying with people or communicating with
others who don’t speak the same language as me. I lived in Taipei for a while
and I was the one who was the outsider, who couldn’t speak the language and
would smile and point at things. You find that you can use your body, your
expressions and your hands for communication when language is a barrier, so I
put all of that into the novel. There may be the occasional blip too and you
can see that in the scene were Danny takes Nai Nai to the bowling green and
there is an incident with a large fruit. It made me laugh to write those kinds
of scenes and I think people have enjoyed the humour of the book, but it was
hard not to make Nai Nai into a caricature. She is based on a few older women
that I know, grandmothers and mothers who do spit out lychee seeds into
buckets, or who bash watermelons with their palms. Women who want to show their
love by feeding you and feeding you some more.
The
book is written in first person, so we see things form Danny’s point of view
and I think he was meaner to her in the earlier drafts. My editor helped me to bring out Danny’s
feelings about his grandmother more, but to have him less stroppy. She said he
also needed to be likeable! I think the tricky part was making him dislike her
for taking up space in his life, rather than disliking her for being ‘foreign’
– I didn’t want readers to see her to ‘other’ even though she is newly-arrived,
so that was a challenge and I hope it worked. In the scene with the chicken
feet this came to the forefront – I didn’t want Danny to be embarrassed by the
food, he loves the food she brought to school. He wanted to eat it. He’s
embarrassed that she’s shown up to school. Little things like that were important
for me. I’ve seen books where Chinese food is posited as ‘disgusting’. It’s
about showing the relationship between them as a bridge between generations and
cultures. I had a lot of worries about representation when writing it. I wanted
to centre a British Chinese character, he’s from the diaspora and so it’s
almost a third space. Non-Chinese people might see him as an outsider even
though he’s British, Chinese from Asia don’t see him as fully Chinese because
he can’t speak the language. It’s a precarious place to be.
Danny
finds self-expression through his art, did you have any means for release when
you were growing up?
I
used to like drawing when I was a child. I won a couple of art competitions
when I was in reception class. My painting of Little Red Riding Hood was put up
in my local library (the now closed Selly Oak Library in South Birmingham) and
I used to like music. I was a fan of Shakin’ Stevens and Adam and the Ants and
put masking tape on my face to replicate the Adam Ant stripes that he used to
have on his face. I liked to read and to go to the library. I had a few of
those Ladybird fairytale books at home but we weren’t a family who read. My
parents would read the local newspaper and my dad would buy the Angling Times,
as she was a fisherman, but that was it. I liked to make up games and play out
on the streets and in the local park, which was called Graffiti Park by the
kids, you can guess why!
There's
a lot of thoughtful comment around the fusion of different cultures and
traditions but there is also a lot of humour, were you conscious of creating a
balance between the two and is humour a useful means for exploring complex
ideas?
I
think the humour comes from my family background. I think humour can be used to
break down barriers between people. It can also create divides if you are using
it to bully or make fun of someone. How can I centre this person’s
experience and add nuance to their character? I think was one question I
looked at when writing the characters. For example, Auntie Yee is a tiger mom.
She is like a lot of parents I’ve met (Chinese and also non-Chinese) who are
pushy, they’re competitive and think about their child as the sum of their
academic achievements. I presented that stereotype (because there are people
like that I know), but I also added a layer of empathy where we can see that
Auntie Yee, also strives to belong in a culture that does not accept her fully
so then she thinks that by having certain things or having a daughter who is
the best is the way to make friends of be accepted.
The
Branford Boase recognises both a debut author and also their editor, can you
tell us a little about the relationship you had with your editor Georgia Murray
at Piccadilly Press?
Georgia
loved my writing from the beginning. When we met for the first time, I was sure
this was the right editor for my book. I could tell she loved the characters
and she said it was in ‘good shape’ which made me feel like I wasn’t a total
novice.
Georgia
sends me notes about the big things like structure, characters, plot and then
there are notes on the actual manuscript. I must say that each time I’ve had
editor notes from Georgia, they have been kind (which is very important for
first time writers), the tone is not condescending, or demanding either. She
offers gentle suggestions and so far, there hasn’t been a note which I’ve
disagreed on or had to dispute. I think there is a now an inherent trust
between us. She knows how I work, which can be disorganised, as I have a rough
plan when I start writing but I like to see what will appear as I’m writing. I
have to delete a lot of words sometimes as I try things and they may not always
work but I accept that as part of the process of writing.
It
was interesting for me to have Georgia there from the idea stage with my second
novel - Keep Dancing, Lizzie Chu and I would say her input into the
shaping of Lizzie Chu was a lot more than with Danny Chung as I had her support
all the way through. She was particularly helpful when I was stuck. I think
sometimes I want someone else to come up with the answers for me, but Georgia
is good at encouraging me to stick with the process. Parts of the novel appear
in the writing of it and some of it feels unconscious and magical almost, I
don’t know where some of it comes from.
I
value Georgia’s measured nature and if I have any concerns (I am a worrier!)
then I feel I can always go to her and tell her what’s on my mind. I trust
Georgia (and her team) to know about the market and so when they came up with Danny
Chung Does Not Do Maths as the title of the book, I wasn’t sure, but then I
told myself, I have to trust her and the team to know what is best for the
book.
Your
latest book is 'Keep Dancing, Lizzie Chu,' can you tell us anything about it
please?
Keep
Dancing, Lizzie Chu
is about a young carer whose grandad, Wai Gong is acting a little strange. They’re
huge Strictly Come Dancing fans and Lizzie gets tickets to the Blackpool Tower
(the home of Ballroom and Latin dancing) and she wants to take him there for a
special day out but she’s twelve-years-old and needs help. It’s got a road
trip, cosplay and of course, dancing. But there are also intermissions of
Chinese myths and legends about the goddess Guan Yin who features in the book.
She is the goddess of compassion and mercy. The book is influenced and was
written during the pandemic. It was hard going! It’s really a homage to popular
culture which was our escape during a tough time, and also, it’s a book about
joy and kindness. It’s quite different from Danny Chung Does Not Do Maths,
the themes are a little bit older, as is the voice. The writing was also
different as the story isn’t as layered as Danny Chung either and there isn’t
an antagonist as such, the obstacles are linear. But it is emotive, so I’ve been
told and there is humour in there too and a lively cast of characters. I hope
readers like it!
The
winner of the Branford Boase traditionally goes on to judge the award, is there
anything you will be particularly keen to see next year?
Ohhhh,
what an interesting question! I don’t know! I loved seeing a highly illustrated
book on this year’s shortlist. I think graphic novels are highly sophisticated
and so perhaps I’d like to see one of those do well – a YA graphic novel maybe?
They’re becoming increasingly popular for all age ranges. Also, funny books are
hard to write but often don’t get the kudos that they should in children’s literature.
If you can make a children smile, laugh or giggle that is no mean feat and I
think children need joy now as they’ve been through so much. So maybe a funny
book where you learn something new too? Who knows what we are going to get next
year!
A big thank you to Maisie for the interview and to Andrea Reece for the opportunity.
Youth Libraries Group South West are offering a bursary to attend this year's conference. Details can be found below.
This
year the Youth Libraries Group National Conference will be held at The Quays
Hotel in Sheffield, from Friday 16th September to Sunday 18th
September. This year's theme is Reading
The Planet: Libraries in a Changing Climate. The conference will also include the gala
dinner for the Carnegie and Kate Greenaway Medals making this an unmissable
opportunity for all interested in libraries and children's literature.
The
Youth Libraries Group South West regional group would like to offer a full paid
bursary to attend the YLG conference to a delegate who is a CILIP member, and
works in a library role that is associated with working with young people
between ages of 0 to 25 in the South West of England area. The bursary will
cover your admission fee for the full conference programme, refreshments and
all meals including dinner on Friday 16th and lunch on Sunday 18th and access
to the virtual programme. The bursary will also cover up to £100 for train travel
costs (receipts must be provided; standard class only.)Accommodation will not be covered under the
bursary.
If
you like to apply for this bursary, we will need the following information in an
email:
●Full
Name
●Email
Address
●Contact
Number
●CILIP
Membership Number
●Job
Role
●Organisation
Name
●The
county you work in (must be in the South West)
●A
short statement, of no more than 300 words, stating how a paid YLG conference place would be of
professional benefit to you.
Please send your applications by email to
Laura McIsaac-Bailey (Youth Libraries Group South West Secretary) at: ylgsouthwest@gmail.com and in the email subject header
please include the following title: YLG
Conference Bursary Application.
All entries must be submitted by Monday
15th August at 5pm. Applications after this deadline will not be considered.
Please note, if you have been awarded a Bursary from YLG South West in the last
two years, you will not be eligible to apply this year.The Youth Libraries Group South West
committee will review all applications and decide on a winner for the bursary.
The winner of the bursary will be notified by email by Saturday 20th August. We
will also ask the winner to write a blog of their experience of the conference
for the CILIP South West regional website.
All applicant details will be destroyed
after the competition has ended under GDPR regulations.
The Youth Library Group are delighted to be part of Teri Terry’sBlack Night Falling blog tour. This high energy, high action title marks the
conclusion to circle trilogy, begun with Dark Blue Rising and continued
with Red Sky Burning. In Black
Night Falling, Tabby has been captured by the Circle and is finding out
more about the ancient sisterhood and Hayden become a figurehead for activists
that are determined to see through change at almost any cost. The questions below are intended to open up
discussion around the third book in the trilogy.
How important do you think it is that people act to
save and protect the environment?
What dangers does Black Night Falling suggest
might exist if this doesn’t happen?
Does the book suggest any barriers that might make it
difficult to act? If you were involved,
how might you overcome these barriers?
‘Now they face the anguish of impossible choices with
the climate crisis.’ (p283)
Choice is very important in the novel can you think of difficult choices that
exist for characters in the book? Is it
always clear whether there is a right or a wrong choice?
Do you think technological and scientific advances are
always a good thing?
When thinking about your answer it might be useful to consider
- the way The Circle use DNA
- the use of chemicals to try to
combat climate change
‘How can you even begin to justify the things The
Circle have done?’ (p29)
Do you think the actions and decisions The Circle have made can be justified? Sometimes people use the phrase the ends justify
the means. Do you think this could apply
to The Circle?
Hayden wonders ‘Would telling her have been worth
the risk of losing her friendship?’ (p47)
Do you think Hayden should have told Eva how he felt about her? What are the reasons for your answer?
What benefits do you think there are to being part
dolphin? If you could chose an animal whose
features you could have which would it be and why? Would this help you achieve a particular
goal?
‘If all of these environmental groups want to stop
climate change, stop pollution, stop the sixth mass extinction what is there to
argue about?’ (p73)
Why do you think the groups do argue and what benefits might there be if they
could come together more?
If you had the
opportunity would you ever be tempted to become part of a group like The
Circle?
When thinking about your answer it might be useful to consider:
- What it feels like to be part
of or outside a group?
- The work and the knowledge
that The Circle has. - Whether being part of a group can affect the feelings
and decisions we make individually?
If you have enjoyed reading The Circle trilogy,
you might like to read another trilogy by Teri Terry, you could try The Dark
Matter Trilogy which is all about an epidemic and its aftermath, or The
Slated trilogy, a dystopia where those accused of crimes have their
memories wiped to give a clean start…