With her forthcoming title, Me and
Aaron Ramsey, Carnegie Award winning author Manon Steffan Ros conjures a
beautifully nuanced slice of Welsh life that celebrates football, family and
finding your feet. Alison King caught up with Manon prior to publication to
talk about her powerful new story.
As someone who has never engaged with
football, I am fascinated by the culture and the community that it
encapsulates. You capture both of those things so well in Me and Aaron
Ramsey - I was utterly swept up in that world, despite having no real
reference points. Where does your own passion for football come from?
I had absolutely no interest whatsoever in football
until 2016. The idea of it bored me; I didn't understand why people got such a
sense of identity from the bunch of people they happened to support kicking a
ball around a field!
Wales qualified for the Euros in 2016, which sparked
an interest in football in my eldest son, who then got me interested. I was
firmly on the bandwagon, and I'm still on it now! There's such grace and skill
and beauty in football, and I can't unsee it. I've been surprised by the sense
of belonging one gets from supporting a football team, and the joy of being
tribal. I think I'd always thought of the tribalism aspect as a bad thing, but
now I can see that it's not about hating the other team and wanting them to
lose- It's about loving your own team.
I've
been in the Kop in Anfield, underneath the huge banners that the fans pass
around, singing You'll Never Walk Alone. There is absolutely nothing like it.
It's the opposite to loneliness.
Following
the success of Nebo, I imagine it must have been quite difficult to find the
story you wanted to tell next. I'm curious as to how you landed on Me and
Aaron Ramsey - it's very different, perhaps that was part of the appeal?
Nebo
came out in 2018 in Welsh, and so those questions of what to do next were
answered some time ago! The first thing I wrote after Nebo was a crime novel-
very different, and that was no mistake. I didn’t want to write the same thing
again, because I want to respect each novel within its own space and theme.
This novel is translated and will be published in the autumn.
Me
and Aaron Ramsey made sense to me as the next step, but also just as a novel in
its own right. The whole mood and feel and meat of it is so different, but
there are similarities thematically. I think they’re both novels about the
relationship between a parent and a child, and that tricky bit between
childhood and adulthood.
In Me
and Aaron Ramsey, the reader spends time with a family that is coming apart
at the seams, and although there are some very tense moments peppered
throughout the story, the atmosphere created is one of hope, and trust and
love. Did you set out to depict it this way or did it happen naturally as the
story evolved?
I
write a lot about parents separating, and also parents who stay together but
are unhappy. When I was younger, there were a lot of middle grade books which
tackled this- Paula Danziger, in particular, tackled it masterfully. But I
think there’s a danger now that because it’s a more common occurrence in
children's lives, we think it maybe isn’t such a big deal, and so we don’t
write about it so much. Or we tend to write parents who are together and happy,
or are separated - not much in between.
I
always try to write with empathy, and am aware that I don’t really want to
write goodies and baddies. It’s just not my style, and I don’t really believe
that people are like that.
I
want to ask you about Sam's brushes with anxiety, which colour his experiences
throughout the book. What did you want to achieve by exploring this, and how
did you approach shaping Sam's emotional journey?
To me, Sam’s anxiety was a natural progression from
having to hear parents arguing often at home. I think that we all experience
some level of anxiety- it’s a natural and often useful reaction to worrying
situations. I wanted to explore how to deal with the feeling when it does
surface, the different coping mechanisms people have. This is admittedly close
to home for me- I remember being quite an anxious child, worrying about war and
nukes and whether my friends really liked me until very late at night. I came
up with ways to stem the worry, and Sam does the same.
in a house
Let’s
talk about Mattie - there's a real sense of freedom in her and I found her to
be a lot of fun and also unexpected, in terms of the way little sisters are
depicted in children's fiction. Where did she spring from and did you enjoy
writing her?
I
love Mattie! I think that there’s a lot of sibling rivalry and tension in
books, and although that is often a reflection of real life, it isn’t always
the case. When there is tension between adults hold, siblings can be allies.
Siblings can also be friends! I really wanted a cool and happy little girl in
this novel, whose brother really loved her and who was more than the
stereotypical annoying younger sibling.
I
don’t know how much you can say but I’m sure everyone reading would love to
know what's on the horizon for you, in terms of writing projects.
What’s
on the horizon? Lots I hope! I absolutely love my job and I get antsy when a
few days pass where I haven’t written anything. I have a few books coming soon-
Feather, is another middle grade novel, and there’s the crime I mentioned earlier, which is set in my
home town of Bethesda. But I’m itching to write something new now, a YA book,
but I’m not going to jinx it by telling you about it novel before it’s taken
root…
A big thank you to Manon Steffan Ros for the interview, to Alison King for
conducting this and to Firefly Press for the opportunity.